Sinnis Trackstar at 18 months & 21k miles (long term review wotsit)

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Going to put all of this into a single page at some point. For now, 4 posts, links to each below.

All my experience with a Sinnis Trackstar to refer people too whenever the question of ‘whats that bike like?’ too refer too.

Part 1 –
About Sinnis
Bike at time of writing
Reasons for buying
My experience and opinion so far

Part 2 –
Positive things
Negative things
Things that what I think are commons issues things

Part 3 –
The customer service experience

Part 4 –
The giant explosiony electrical boom of doom & subsequent nuclear fallout

Sinnis Trackstar Image

Part 1

About Sinnis : Sinnis are Brighton UK based, use Suzuki GN based licensed engines, and sell badged bikes from Quingi. I believe some of their models are ‘almost’ the same as some other brands (Pulse springs to mind). From what I understand, Sinnis’ owner’s brother (or another family relation of some sort) is actually over in China land doing the QC. Hence why Sinnis seem to be a notch above the bad Chinese bikes.

My bike at time of writing :

Motorbike Model
Sinnis Trackstar

Age
18 months

Mileage
21,344mi

Max speed during running in : 30mph?
Max speed the bike feels unstrained : 40mph-45mph
Max speed the bike goes : 60mph-65mph
Max speed the bike goes off a cliff : Maybe 85mph-95mph – Untested

My reason for buying

My original reason for buying was I have a habit of having bikes vanish. I live near Hayes End, and anything sporty, supermoto, or off road is taken away in the middle of the night by magic elves who usually leave them in hedges, fields, or piles of ash. I have no garage, so I wanted something cheap to do a painfully long slow trek into work and back every day that did not look like thief bait. The intention of moving home or getting a garage and getting something a bit silly for the weekends at a later date (bonkers 2 strokes appeal greatly to me for weekend fun Smile ).

My experience and opinion so far

I kept the bike longer than intended and it has pleasantly suprised me. I never got a 2nd bike as I never moved to a nice area. I still live in an area where bikes reguarly get taken by the magical night time motorbike pixies.

For the bikes first year it was used pretty much entirely on a run filtering 200 mile a week through London up the A40 & A406. It then got used on a different commute either filtering through town or around the M25.

Outside of commuting, I also took her from Londons Ace Cafe to the main Ace Cafe rallies. Brighton burn up, Margate meltdon, Hastings 1066, Southend shakedown. It has also done a 450 mile run up to and around Norfolk. For a 4 poke 125, its gotten about in the last year!

I have done all my own servicing scince about 4000km (3000 mile?). The warranty is quite hot on services every 2k. I am a mechanical noob and have stumbled through working from a Haynes Manual. It is happy so far.

I treat the bike OK. I haven’t given her any ACF50. I ride her daily. I did give her a 2 minute wipe down on the really salty days after journeys (the engine was actually white with salt, I wouldn’t leave that much salt on any bike!). I give her fresh oil every 1000km (about £5 of Castrol, 750ml, usually bought in 4 litre bottles). Filters get changed every 2000km (£6 total for a K&N 131 oil filter and foam TNT air filter). I clean her most weekends with a dry cleaning fluid stuff from Halfrauds (Triplewax Waterless Wash & Shine). The original chain was a twat and needed tightening reguarly. About every 300km-500km. You can fit a super HD gold chain and sprocket for £80. When your first chain dies, just get a good one. Up to 21k miles, I had to adjust the valves onces.

I do not rag the feck out of it, but do ride her hard in town and reguarly use NSL roads and motorways.

Original tyres were Kingstones, which lasted 15k (km), and still had tread on them. 250-300km a week of filtering. I fancied a change and was going on some longer twistier journeys last year so changed the Kingstones for Conti Go’s. They cost about £90 for a pair fitted. I assume they are called Conti Gos because they like to Conti ‘let’ Go in the wet. In the dry I did notice a very positive difference though.

Parts are available. A guy I know on Tweeter crashed his Apache, replaced half the bikes disposables, was riding again a week later. I am told for difficult parts you have to wait a week or two. I have had to order basic parts and with 1 exception (see Part 3 – Customer Service Experience) they have all came next day. Parts were rear brake lever, front brake lever, rear rack, and some disposables (filters & such before I hit eBay).

I give the exhaust a quick clean, no scrubbing, and half a tin of Hammerite every 8 months. It doesnt look shabby.

The Haynes Chinese Motorcycle manual is the correct manual for this bike.

Mechanically the only break downs I have had have been punctures. The only issue I have had outside of punctures is an electrical issue, which despite being 1 small wire, I turned into a big electrical explosion of doom (see part – electrical explosion of doom for more details.

I am often up the Ace Cafe on a Sunday, and am happy to come play at weekends to show anyone interested in it.

28 thoughts on “Sinnis Trackstar at 18 months & 21k miles (long term review wotsit)

  1. Malcolm Cook

    Hi great review

    I’m looking into getting a trackstar or apache yo com commute to london a 70 mile round trip down the a2 in kent into london (brixton)
    Would these bike be up to the journey
    Thanks
    Malcolm

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    1. sable Post author

      Either would be fine. Mine did a year and a half up and dwn the a40 and a406. Now its the back of Hatch end to North London and reguarly hits the M1 M25 home.

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  2. rusher

    I have one of this bike but it’s a 150 cc, commonly called here as a CPI DTR150 model, looks very similar to your trackstar 125. The difference is the engine headlights, front fender etc., but the overall look is the same, if you want to see it here is the link: http://www.hausmotors.com/motorcycles/sports-dtr-150/

    Overall performance for me very good, fuel mileage very good, long distance riding very comfy, speed at 100km/h top speed tested and very affordable bike with lots to offer.

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  3. The Cat

    Great post, but then I would expect that from some nice person who has started following my little blog (thank you).

    I hope that your day is bright, sunny and full of Prawns!

    Purrs,

    The Cat

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  4. chris

    you can get a big bore kit for the sinnis . (150) makes a bit of difference if you alter the front sprocket . my engine runs on part water.
    i am converting it to run on fumes at the moment.As far as the ace cafe , i used to frequent it in the late 50s ( i am 76 years young now ) we used to rum between the ace and the busy bee. good old days
    i live in Devon now but .ride a lot in France , lovely roads.
    Chris

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    1. sable Post author

      Hi Chris, yes I have seen the big bore kits all over eBay. 🙂 The Sinnis Retrostar that followed is doing well so has made a good replacement 🙂

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  5. Linda

    Great description of your bike. It sounds like a perfect commuter bike. Since there is no such thing as owning one bike, I predict at some point you will have a bigger bike for extended trips–almost an essential in the U. S. My favorite bikes have been smaller ones: Suzuki 450 and Kawasaki Super Sherpa. It is harder to get smaller, standard riding position bikes in the U.S. than elsewhere in the world. Enjoy!

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    1. sable Post author

      I hope to have a Triumph scrambler black some day, but not much point owning anything bigger than a 250 when I rarely leave London. 😊

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  6. Alexis Papageorge

    It’s a nice bike. I just rode one of these to Greece. It handled really well most of the way and was great fun to ride. Also a lot of people interested in the bike. The only strange thing was the Sinnis played up in the Alps, loss of power and juddering uphill. Sounds funny, but it was cold up there. There are mountains in Italy and Greece too, but it was a lot warmer and also no problems there. The chain was tightened in Zurich that morning and looked good, so I think it might have been something todo with the fuel, but I’m no mechanic.

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    1. sable Post author

      Ahh yeah, both of mine have hated the cold. Did you post your adventure online at all? Got any links to your adventure?

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  7. beetleypete

    I used to commute to work on bikes years ago, although I was never a real ‘biker’. I had never heard of Sinnis, so this intrigued me. I started on a Honda CD200 Benly and after passing my test, I changed to a Honda RS250 single with full fairing, then had a brief flirtation with a Yamaha 350LC that scared me. (The front wheel kept lifting) After that followed a very short spell on a BMW R80 that was too wide to get through the traffic in Central London comfortably, and too heavy for someone as short as me (5′ 7″). The insurance and running costs were silly too.

    I finished up with a Yamaha 125 scooter that had a top speed of 60 mph with a following wind, belt drive, and twist and go controls. The best thing I ever used for commuting, by a mile. I haven’t been on a bike since 1998, and now I am living in Norfolk, and almost 65, I doubt I will ever ride one again.

    Best wishes, Pete.

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    1. sable Post author

      Yeah London biking is best done with the small and nippy. Not a fan of scooters, but they deffo have their place on Londons roads.

      Sorry to hear you doubt you’ll ever ride again. Its never to late!

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